#MCU vs DCEU

[wetalkfilm]

Screen Clash DC &Marvel: Separated at Birth?

[mcudc616]

Moon Knight vs Batman -- Artwork by Bob McLeod

[malfiora]

rewatched Batman vs. Superman and im painfully reminded of how MCU fumbled the bag

the bag being sociopolitical commentary about whether the Avengers need government oversight. Civil War started out being about this and then very quickly veers away from any actual difficult conversation because of course Disney did. We could have had

an introduction of the Super Human Registration Act (SHRA) and a new body to enforce it (which could have paved the way to (re)introduce Sentinels and revealed the existence of mutants)

discourse on how people who can't blend in to society get ostracized while those who can pass are generally fine, and Tony above all has money and intelligence and has far less to lose by complying with the government

actual contrition from Tony, meaning he explicitly takes responsibility for Ultron and states why it was wrong

Steve having to reconcile with America having different values now than in his time (or he's just now seeing the truth of what America has always been – an imperial power always vying for the upper hand and unafraid to use any new weapon, including superheroes, at our disposal). This point goes double since, ya know, it's his movie

crazy how both films start out as commentary and then end up about some rich orphan's parents, but at least in BvS it makes sense

[could-they-be-a-pro-wrestler]

Event poll series: Fictional Wrestlemania (Night 2)

Match 5: Tony Stark (c) vs. Bruce Wayne for the Universal Championship

(NOTE: There are no special powers here, so don’t vote based on powerscaling. Everyone is equal here. Remember, wrestling is scripted!)

If you want to catch up on the lore/storyline details: Click this link

[bi-dykes]

Omg! It’s Lucas Lee, Ramona Flowers, and Envy Adams! 🤩

[jessebatson]

On paper, this may seem one-sided. The only female that regularly hangs with the Avengers ends up going against Joker's girlfriend? Well, when you compare the cinematic versions of these characters, it's a closer match than one may think.

Black Widow is ... Black Widow. Most people have seen her quick thinking, awesome athletics, advanced weaponry, and never-quit attitude. She's definitely a threat in any cinematic universe.

Meanwhile, Harley provides some comedic relief in the DCEU, but she also, especially after rewatching Birds of Prey, has a lot of skills. She's agile, smart, has an unruly edge to her, and is pretty tough. She, like the Widow, also thinks on her feet.

Hand to hand combat? Black Widow would probably win, though Harley would definitely land some shots. Weapons? Black Widow also wins, but, again, Harley throws Black Widow off her game with the bean bags full of glitter and wooden mallets. Street smarts? Eh. I'm no sure. Black Widow probably wins that, too, but not by much.

Overall, I guess we do have a winner, but it's a battle that would be very interesting with a lot of back and forth.

Winner: Black Widow

[figures4fun]

Red Capes

[drbatsponge]

I don't think Marvel fans would've survived being DC fans back in 2016 because the cope over the Ant-Man Rotten Tomatoes score is giving me flashbacks.

[phoenixlionme]

Who Would Win? Battle 27

Steve Rogers aka Captain America, Tony Stark aka Iron Man, and Thor Odinson

vs

Clark Kent aka Superman, Bruce Wayne aka Batman, and Diana Prince aka Wonder Woman

[wetalkfilm]

Screen Clash DC &Marvel: Separated at Birth?

[mcudc616]

Marvel house ad for Marvel & DC Present ft. The Uncanny X-Men & The New Teen Titans (1982)

-- original art by Walt Simonson and Terry Austin recreated by MC Wyman with colors by Gerry Turnbull.

[malfiora]

my friends cracked it:

MCU: fun and accessible plots that anyone can get into, fun Easter eggs for comic nerds; shallow characters that feel interchangeable

DCEU: deep and sympathizable characters, amazing costume designs; clunky or complicated plots

[artbyblastweave]

aks game: the dceu / "snyderverse" movies

So, watching Batman Vs. Superman as a teenager, I didn't exactly feel like my time was wasted. (Rise of Skywalker is the only film I've ever seen in theaters where I felt like my time was being actively wasted.) But I do recall judging the movie pretty harshly on the grounds that it wasn't as good as the MCU. Ten years of additional context have led me to the conclusion that these are shitty, shitty grounds on which to dismiss a superhero movie, so I think sometime soon I'm going to have to revisit the film in order to separate what was actually wrong with it (such as their attempt to play catch-up in creating a shared universe) from what the significantly-more-MCU-friendly fandom spaces of 2015 decided was wrong with it. There are undoubtedly a number of good ideas floating around in that thing, chained down in the execution; in the abstract, for example, I am really, really compelled by the idea of Superman debuting after Batman is entering his veteran-vigilante, cynical-isolated-paranoiac-over-the-hill era, with Superman acting as the decision point for Batman's descent into even more brutal cynicism or a return to the ideals he was originally pursuing. It wasn't executed well but that idea is clearly present, and I think it's worth taking seriously. In general, I'm not as hostile to Snyder's films as many are, because I find his signature melodramatic excess to be genuinely charming- sometimes I find it effective for the reasons Snyder finds it effective, more often I find it effective in a so-bad-it's-good way. The Joss-Whedon cut of Justice League I saw on an airplane made me want to bash my head against a brick wall, but I genuinely thought the Four-hour Snyder cut was a decent use of my time, because of, and not in spite of, how gratuitous and self-indulgent it was- every bad idea present because someone sincerely thought it was a good idea, no homogenizing decisions-by-committee in sight.

[ordinaryschmuck]

If someone might wonder why it is anyone prefers the MCU to the DCEU....

DCEU Hero costumes...

Vs Marvel costumes....

...Go on.

[jessebatson]

OK, Batman is usually on top of things, always with a back-up plan, a utility belt full of gadgets, and his extensive fighting skills. Black Widow, however, particularly the MCU version, seems quite capable against Batfleck.

Batman typically doesn’t kill, but this Batman is different, at least when he was enraged by Superman. Black Widow? Well, we know there’s red in her ledger.

In terms of weapons and tech, it may be an even playing field. Black Widow has S.H.I.E.L.D. tech that includes blunt weapons, electric shocks, and projectiles. This Batman hasn’t shown off his weaponry as much, but we know that Bruce Wayne money buys a lot. He did come up with armor and weapons that put down Superman, at least momentarily.

Batman in the DCEU vs Black Widow from the MCU? Honestly, I’m kind of shocked, but I’m going with Marvel only because she has had more screen time. We’ve seen a little bit more of her fighting a variety of people, from Ultron’s robots to Hawkeye to aliens from space.

Winner: Black Widow

Is Black Widow your pick, too?